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1. Formation of A Limited Company Providing Accounting Sevices

Formation of A Limited Company Providing Accounting Services

Question (as per letter dated 15 August 2001):-

I wish to form a company bearing the name "ABC Accounting Solutions Sdn. Bhd." to provide accounting services to my clients. The Registrar of Companies (ROC) wanted me to get a supporting letter from MIA before it can approve the use of such name. Please let me have your supporting letter soonest possible. Your supporting letter should be addressed to ROC and forward to me for my onward transmission to the ROC.

Answer (as per letter dated 24 August 2001):-

We refer to your letter dated 15 August 2001 with regard to the above matter.

It is the Institute's position not to support any application to set up a body corporate to offer the services of a chartered accountant at the moment. Hence, we will not be able to accede to your request to set up a body corporate to provide accounting services to your clients. The reason can be summarised below, supported by several relevant sections of the Accountants Act 1967 (the "Act") as amended by the Accountants (Amendment) Act 2001:-

Section 22 - Holding out as chartered accountant or auditor or tax consultant, states the following :-

No person shall unless he is registered as a chartered accountant under this Act and has his principal or only place of residence within Malaysia -

a. practise or hold himself out as a chartered accountant, auditor, tax consultant, tax adviser or any other like description;
b. adopt, use or exhibit the terms "chartered accountant", "auditor", "tax consultant", "tax adviser" or any other term of like description; or
c.

adopt, use or exhibit the term "accountant" or any other term of like description in such circumstances as to indicate or to be likely to lead persons to infer that he is a chartered accountant or that he is qualified by any written law to practise the profession of or is in practice as a chartered accountant.

Provided that nothing in this section shall operate to prevent an advocate or any person authorized under any other law for the time being in force in Malaysia from carrying on the work of a tax consultant or a tax adviser.

Section 18 on Prohibition (in as far as relevant) on members' conduct also mentioned that :

Without prejudice to any other provisions of this Act or rules or by-laws no member shall -

a. allow any person not being a member to practise in his name as a chartered accountant;
b. be a director or a shareholder in a company incorporated under the Companies Act, 1965, or any other written law, being a company which carries on a business of auditing, nor shall he use a trade or association name under which to practise the profession;
c. in any way, practise as a chartered accountant or licensed accountant other than -
i. in his own name;
ii. in the name or names of his partner or partners being chartered accountants or licensed accountants; or
iii. in the name of a firm existing at the time of the coming into operation of this Act or formed thereafter provided that the partners in Malaysia are eligible to be registered as chartered accountants or licensed accountants;

Furthermore, Section 14(6) of the Act prohibits a body corporate from being eligible for membership of the Malaysian Institute of Accountants. This section effectively defines that a person as mentioned under Section 22 of the Act cannot be a body corporate.

Hence, based on Section 22 and Section 18(b) of the Act, it is obvious that an audit practice cannot be incorporated. As for other public practice services, unless specifically provided under any other written law (e.g.. Income Tax Act, 1967 - the position of which is not clear at present), a body corporate is not allowed to hold itself out as a chartered accountant providing such services, since the Act only provides for a natural person to do so when Section 22 and Section 14(6) are read together. Thus, by allowing you to register a body corporate with the name "ABC Accounting Solutions Sdn. Bhd.", you can be deemed to have contravened the Act under Section 27 - Penalty for misrepresentation by body corporate which reads as follows :

Any body corporate which, or any director, officer, or servant thereof who, does any act of such a nature and in such a manner as to hold-out that the body corporate is a chartered accountant shall be guilty of an offence and the body corporate shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding twenty thousand ringgit and where the act is done by a director, officer or servant of the body corporate the director, officer or servant thereof shall also, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding ten thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year and on a second or subsequent conviction to a fine not exceeding twenty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

In view of the above, the Malaysian Institute of Accountants would not encourage its members to incorporate companies providing auditing and other public practice services, unless another piece of legislation provides such other options.

Please be so guided accordingly.

2. Technical Enquiries

Technical Enquiries

Questions (as per letter dated 27 December 2001) :-

We would appreciate the assistance of the Institute to address the following technical enquiries. These enquiries relate to matters concerning KLSE Listing Requirements (KLSE-LR) and the Malaysian Code of Corporate Governance (MCCG).

1. Composition of Board of Directors of Listed Company

Under Paragraph 15.02, Part B, Chapter 15 - Corporate Governance of the KLSE-LR,
"a listed company is required to have at least 2 directors or one-third of the board of directors whichever is higher to be independent directors."

It is further stated,
"If the number of directors of the listed company is not 3 or a multiple of 3, then the number nearest to one-third shall be used."

However, under Paragraph III - Board Balance, Part 2 of the MCCG, it is stated, "to be effective, independent non-executive directors need to make up at least one-third of the membership of the board."

The board of directors of our listed client comprises 7 board members, out of which 2 are independent non-executive directors. The board composition is in compliance with the KLSE-LR. However, the board composition is not in tandem with the Part 2 of the MCCG.

We wish to seek your clarification on which ruling should prevail under the above circumstances.
2. Directors' Interest in Shares

Under Section 169(6)(g), the Company is required to disclose in its Directors' Report, the directors' interest in shares.

As a listed company, our client has a number of institutional shareholders, for example, Permodalan Nasional Berhad, Tabung Haji and other institutional shareholders. Normally, these institutional shareholders will appoint their nominees as directors of listed company to protect their interest.

Under these circumstances, are these nominated directors deemed to be interested in the shares of the company and therefore warrant disclosure under Section 169(6)(g)?

Answers (as per our letter dated 23 January 2002) :-

1. Composition of Board of Directors of Listed Company

In the event of a conflict between the Kuala Lumpur Stock Exchange (KLSE) Listing Requirements and that of the Malaysian Code of Corporate Governance (MCCG), the KLSE Listing Requirements shall prevail as this is a rule imposed by the KLSE on all public listed entities. In as far as the MCCG is concerned, it is, at present, a statement of best practices aspired from our corporate citizen. Hence, a heavier weightage should be assigned to the Listing Requirements.

Based on the scenario given in your circumstances, the appointment of the 2 independent non-executive directors are deemed in compliance with the KLSE Listing Requirements on the appointment of independent director. However, our Institute, in adopting an aggressive stance, is also of the opinion that Paragraph III - Board Balance, Part 2 of the MCCG has since been complied with, although the Code did spell out that independent non-executive directors need to make up at least one third of the membership of the board. This is, in our opinion, simply due to the effect of rounding the fraction to a meaningful number. However, should your client feel that there is an incongruence in the compliance with the MCCG, the option is to disclose this non-compliance within the Annual Report and elaborate the alternative to best practices adopted by your client inside the statement in relation to its compliance with the MCCG in their Annual Report.

2. Directors' Interest In Shares

Section 169(6)(g) provides for the disclosure in the Directors' Report about an individual director's interest in shares or debentures of the reporting entity as well as other related corporations as defined under the Act. Section 6A (4) and (5) further elaborate on the interpretations of a person that can be deemed to be interested in the shares of that reporting entity either through direct or indirect shareholdings.

A person who is elected to the Board of your clients as a nominee director will not usually be deemed to be interested in those shares held by the institutional investors that you mentioned such as Permodalan Nasional Berhad, Tabung Haji etc. (and hence, disclosure is not necessary), provided that the nominee director can demonstrate to be able to control the Board of Directors or management of the institutional investors either through shareholdings or other contractual arrangement, whether singly or acting with parties in concert at a level which can be considered as substantial in nature, and hence, able to influence the directions of the institutional investors' entities.

3. By-Laws on Advertising

By-Laws on Advertising

Question (as per e-mail dated 18 January 2002) :-

Circular No. 13/99 sets out guidelines on Advertising for Sale of Assets by Insolvency Practitioners. It also provided a sample. The sample suggests that the firm's logo should not be placed on the advertisement.

Under the present MIA By-Laws (A-9 and B-3), are we now allowed to place the firm's logo on the advertisement?


Answer (as per our e-mail dated 28 January 2002) :-

We would respond to your query in the affirmative. With effect from 15 January 2002 and subject to the requirements in By-Law A-9 and By-Law B-3, the firm's logo may be placed on any advertisement undertaken by the firm.

4. Dormant Companies

Dormant Companies

Question (as per e-mail dated 1 March 2002) :-

By-Law B-6.2 (1) states that "No member shall charge an unrealistically low professional fee." Furthermore, in its explanatory note, it is stated that a professional fee of less than Ringgit Malaysia Five Hundred (RM500.00) for audit services shall be considered as an unrealistically low professional fee. Please advise whether this applies to audit fees charged on a dormant company of RM300.00 in the past.

Answer (as per e-mail dated 7 March 2002) :-

If you look at the By-Law and the explanatory note together, it would appear that a dormant company is also covered under this By-Law since no exception is provided therein.

5. Audit Evidence

Audit Evidence

Question (as per letter dated 8 February 2002) :-

We wish to seek your clarification and advice on the following :

1. A is our audit client since the date of incorporation.
2.

B is also our audit client from the date of incorporation until 1999.

3. A is owing B RMxxx from 1998 until to-date.
4. When we did the audit for B in 1998, A confirmed the balance outstanding. The confirmation slip is filed in B's audit workpapers.
5. To-date, A is still our audit client. B has changed to another auditor.
6. Now, B is taking legal action to recover the debt. One director of B has made an oral request to obtain the original confirmation slip from us as proof of debt in court.

Please clarify and advise us on the following :

1. Please clarify and advise us on the following :
2. Must we agree or refuse B's oral request?

Answer (as per letter dated 11 March 2002) :-

Our Institute's Public Practice Committee had deliberated on the issue raised in your letter during a recent meeting. The Committee is of the opinion that the piece of audit confirmation which you obtained in the course of your audit of B is your own property. As such, how you actually deal with it should be based on your professional judgment. The possible areas to be considered include your agreement clause in your previous letter of engagement with B (how long you are supposed to maintain your file etc.) as well as the degree of audit assurance that you have obtained from that piece of confirmation vis-a-vis the audit opinion eventually. In certain circumstances, legal advice should also be sought prior to your disclosing such information to B.

6. Member’s Ethical Code And Duty Of Care For Their Ex-Staff

Member's Ethical Code And Duty Of Care For Their Ex-Staff

Question (as per e-mail dated 10 March 2002) :-

I have just graduated from the ACCA exams and expect to apply as a member of MIA as a non-practising chartered accountant. However, I have found some problems regarding my practical experience.

I worked for an accounting firm (which is registered with MIA) a few years ago for a period of 2 years. I have requested the firm to write a detailed testimonial for me since the date before I resigned, but till now, I have not received anything from the firm. I would like to ask whether the accounting firm has a duty of care to its ex-staff or is there any ethical code that the member/firm should follow in this matter? How can I solve this problem and obtain my detailed testimonial.

Answer (as per e-mail dated 22 March 2002) :-

There is no express provision in our By-laws on Professional Conduct and Ethics for a member/firm to issue a testimonial for an ex-employee. However, all our members have a general obligation and responsibility to respond to professional enquiries and correspondence expeditiously under By-Law A-7 of the Institute's By-Laws on Professional Conduct and Ethics [Revised January 2002]. Failure to do so is a breach of the By-Laws which can result in disciplinary action being taken against the member concerned if a complaint is lodged with the Institute.

We would suggest that you write to your previous employer requesting for your testimonial, and quote the above By-Law A-7 as a basis for your request to expedite the issuance of your testimonial.

If there is still no response from your previous employer, you are entitled to lodge a complaint in writing to the Registrar of the Institute together with a supporting statutory declaration, against the member/firm concerned. If found guilty of a breach of the By-laws, disciplinary action can be taken against the member/firm concerned. However, the Institute has no power to compel the issuance of the testimonial on your behalf.

7. Size Of Practice Signboard

Size Of Practice Signboard

Question (as per e-mail dated 20 April 2002) :-

I wish to put up a signboard for my practice. Is the size of the signboard restricted to less than 6000 square centimetres?

Answer (as per e-mail dated 22 April 2002) :-

With effect from 15 January 2002, the previous restriction on the size of the signboard has been removed. Please check our web-site at http://www.mia.org.my for further details.

8. Ownership Of Audit Working Papers

Ownership Of Audit Working Papers

Question (as per e-mail dated 14 April 2002) :-

I would like to seek your clarification/opinion on the following matter :-

I was a partner of XY & Associates from 1996 to 31 March 2002 and am currently practising solely under CK & Co. Since I obtained my audit licence, I have been signing the audit report for almost all the clients of XY & Associates who are based in Penang.

Recently, there is a verbal separation arrangement on the clientele as a result of me leaving XY & Associates and I believe that XY & Associates is now practising as a sole proprietor firm.

Some of the clients are maintaining XY & Associates as auditors while a majority of the clients are appointing my new firm as auditors. I understand that ultimately, the choice for the appointment of auditors lies with the client.

I would like to know whether the audit working papers (CAF & PAF) should belong to whom :-

(a) XY & Associates
(b) Signing partner which is myself i.e. Mr. X
(c) The auditors which the client intends to follow

K
indly let me have the opinion of the Council of MIA as soon as possible.

Answer (as per e-mail dated 16 April 2002) :-

It is the position of the Institute that the working papers (CAF & PAF) should belong to the continuing firm rather than the individual signing auditors.

9. Internal Audit Services

Internal Audit Services

We refer to your letter dated 28 April 2003.

Presently, our By-Law B-1.4 prohibits a member in public practice or his firm from accepting appointment as auditors or reporting accountant if he or his firm already provide other public practice services (in your case, internal audit services) to a company or any other entity where the provision of such non-audit services would create a significant threat to his or his firm's professional independence, integrity or objectivity. The explanatory notes following this By-Law further elaborates on circumstances where such situation is not acceptable and no proper safeguard will be able to mitigate this professional independence threat.

In addition, By-Law A-2.1 (3) states that "A member in public practice shall be, and be seen to be, free in each professional assignment he undertakes, of any interest which might detract from objectivity. The fact that this is self-evident in the exercise of the reporting function must not obscure its relevance in respect of other professional work."

Hence, your firm should critically assess your position as a statutory auditor vis-a-vis your appointment as a consultant providing internal audit services. It is imperative that should a decision be taken by your firm in accepting such non-audit services, the decision should be properly documented with relevant supporting argument to preserve your firm's overall independence policy. Such assessment should be conducted on an annual basis should there be a continuous reliance on the part of such client on your non-audit services.

Kindly note that our views expressed herein are intended to assist you solely on an ad hoc basis in resolving your inquiry. The views expressed are not the official opinion of MIA, its Council or any of its Committees. Advice given is provided gratuitously and without liablity. Neither MIA, its Council or any of its Committees nor its employees shall be responsible or liable for any claims, losses, damages, costs or expenses arising in any way out of or in connection with any persons relying upon the advice given.

Yours sincerely,

MALAYSIAN INSTITUTE OF ACCOUNTANTS
HO FOONG MOI (MS)

Executive Director

10. Professional Independence

Professional Independence

Question (as per letter dated 29 April 2002) :-

With reference to B-1-1(e) of the By-Laws (on Professional Conduct and Ethics), I wish to enquire whether members of the immediate family can be appointed as directors (not executive director) of a corporation providing secretarial services and whose employee is an officer of the company of which I am the auditor.

Answer (as per letter dated 8 May 2002) :-

Based on our Institute's By-Law B-1.1(1), it would appear that there is no express prohibition for you to act as the auditor even though your immediate family member is appointed as a director of the secretarial company, albeit in a non-executive role. However, it is near impossible for the By-Law to cater for every single occurrence or circumstance imaginable. At the end of the day, you as the auditor are expected to observe the Institute's overriding statement of integrity and objectivity in substance rather than merely follow the form of certain practices (By-Law A-2.1) :-

Members shall at all times be straightforward, honest and sincere in their approach to their professional work. Integrity implies not merely honesty but fair dealing and truthfulness by all members.

The principle of objectivity imposes the obligation on all members to be fair, intellectually honest and free of conflicts of interest. Members shall be fair in their approach to their professional work and shall not allow any prejudice, bias or influences of others to override their objectivity.

A member in public practice shall be, and be seen to be, free in each professional assignment he undertakes, of any interest which might detract from objectivity. The fact that this is self-evident in the exercise of the reporting function must not obscure its relevance in respect of other professional work.

We hope this is sufficient guidance for you on the issue of professional independence.

11. By-Law B-1 On Professional Independence

By-Law B-1 On Professional Independence

Question (as per facsimile dated 26 June 2002) :-

With reference to the above, kindly confirm the following :-

Definition of "Partner".

If an approved auditor acts as a non-executive independent director in Company A, can he act as an auditor in Company B where the director/shareholder of Company B is also the majority director/shareholder of Company A.

Can a member become the auditor of a company where the member of his immediate family is a company secretary?
(Note : The company secretary is not a key management personnel of the company as defined under By-Law B-1.1 (2)).

Answer (as per facsimile dated 28 June 2002) :-

We refer to your facsimile forwarded to us on 26 June 2002 and to your queries therein.

We would like to respond as follows:

1.

The word "partner" is not defined in the Institute's By-Laws (On Professional Conduct & Ethics) [Revised January 2002]. However, the word "partner" has the meaning as ascribed pursuant to the term "partnership" under the Partnership Act 1961.

2.

Based on the information provided by you, the approved auditor may be able to act as auditor for Company B unless Company A and Company B are deemed to be related to each other by virtue of section 6 of the Companies Act 1965. If there is such a relationship, the approved auditor cannot act as auditor for Company B, since he is also an officer of Company A. In any event, the auditor must at all times be guided by the spirit and intention of By-Law B-1, namely that the auditor must in fact and in appearance, be independent in carrying out the audit for Company B.

3.

By-Law B-1.1(1)(e)(i) of the By-Laws prohibits any member in public practice from taking on the appointment as the auditor of a company where any of the member's immediate family (as defined in the By-Laws) is an officer of the company. An officer of the company is defined in the By-Laws as including those persons defined as an officer pursuant to section 4(1) of the Companies Act 1965. Under section 4(1) of the Companies Act 1965, an officer of the company includes the secretary of the company.

The Companies Act 1965 does not make any distinction between internal or external company secretaries. The duties and responsibilities of company secretaries as set out in the Companies Act 1965 are applicable to all company secretaries irrespective of whether they are appointed from within the company or appointed externally.

The exemption in By-Law B-1.1(2) of the By-Laws does not apply in this case, since the position of the company secretary is as an officer of the company and not as an employee of the company. The exemption in By-Law B-1.1(2) of the By-Laws only applies if any of the member's immediate family (as defined in the By-Laws) is an employee who is not a key management personnel of the company.

The rationale behind the provision in By-Law B-1.1(1)(e) of the By-Laws is to ensure that there is no appearance of conflict of interest or lack of independence on the part of the Institute's members who are appointed as auditors of companies. This is more so given the significant duties and responsibilities imposed on auditors pursuant to section 174(2) of the Companies Act 1965 particularly as set out in sub-paragraph (b) thereto, where an auditor is required to report on whether inter alia, the records and registers of the company (which fall within the purview of the company secretary) are properly kept in accordance with the provisions of the Act.

We trust that the above is of assistance to you.

Kindly note that our views expressed above are based on the limited information given to us and are intended to assist you solely on an ad hoc basis in resolving your query. The views expressed herein are not the official views of the MIA, its Council or any of its Committees. This advice is provided gratuitously and without liability. Neither the MIA, its Council or any of its Committees nor its employees shall be responsible or liable for any claims, losses, damages, costs or expenses arising in any way out of or in connection with any reliance upon the advice given herein by any person(s).

Thank you.

12. Professional Fees

Professional Fees

Question (as per letter dated 29 June 2002) :-

We would appreciate it very much if you could kindly advise us on the following matters:-

1. Is the professional fee charged by a Public Accountant subject to certain rules, guidelines etc.?
2. If the answer is no, then how are professional fees actually charged and as such are they done arbitrarily?
3. We enclosed herewith some completed Audit Reports and the Invoices given. Could you please comment as to whether the sum charged is justified?

Thank you for your kind cooperation.

Answer (as per letter 11 July 2002) :-

Thank you for your letter dated 29 June 2002.

Our Institute's By-Law B-6.1 on Fees & Commission provides that professional fees charged by members in public practice shall be a fair reflection of the value of the work performed for the client, and shall take into account inter alia -

(a) the skill and knowledge required for the type of work involved;
(b) the level of training and experience of the persons necessarily engaged on the work;
(c) the time necessarily occupied by each person engaged on the work; and
(d) the degree of responsibility and urgency that the work entails.

In addition, the following explanatory notes further emphasise the principle behind our By-Law B-6.1 :-

1.

In order to carry out the professional service for which he is engaged, a member in public practice must first consider the instructions of his client in conjunction with any statutory duty relating thereto and then discharge his responsibility by applying to the affairs of his client the professional skill and knowledge which he and his staff have acquired through training and experience.

2.

The member's fees for that service should provide him with appropriate remuneration for the time and skill which he has personally devoted to his client's affairs and the responsibility he has accepted together with reimbursement of and a suitable margin of profit on his overhead expenses and the salaries of his staff for whose work he takes responsibility.

3. Fees should therefore normally be computed by reference to the above factors (a) to (d).
4. It is neither usual nor necessary for bills submitted to clients to be fully detailed but the member's records should be adequate to enable this to be done if required either to satisfy the client or in the unfortunate event of it becoming necessary to take legal proceedings to recover unpaid fees.

By-Law B-6.2 provides that the fees charged should not be unrealistically low and the Institute has taken the position that a professional fees of less than five hundred Ringgit for audit services provided to commercial enterprise shall be considered as unrealistically low professional fees. Furthermore, as per By-Law B-6.3(1), it is mentioned that in specific circumstances, where a member in public practice feels there are genuine grounds to propose a lower fee than another member undertaking the same or similar work (other than non-recurring or specialist work including management consultancy services), the member shall exercise due care to ensure that the lower fee is in line with the provisions of By-law B-6.1 above.

We are pleased to enclose herein a set of our recommended (as opposed to mandatory) basis for determining audit fees which may give you some basic idea of the process of fees determination by our members in public practice.

However, we regret to inform you that it will not be possible for the Institute to comment on Question No. 3 of your letter, namely whether the sum charged by your auditor is justified or otherwise. This is simply because, the function of fees as we mentioned earlier in this letter will consist of those elements as elaborated above, namely the skill and knowledge required for the type of work (details of which we have no access to), the time that was taken to complete the work involved, as well as the degree of urgency of the assignment that was carried out as requested by the client, etc.

We hope the above will be able to clarify some of your concerns when dealing with our members.

13. Professional Indemnity Insurance Coverage

Professional Indemnity Insurance Coverage

Question :-

As a proprietor of a non-audit firm, do I need to subscribe for the Professional Indemnity Insurance coverage?

Answer :-

Yes, you have to. Under By-Law 23-3, every member in public practice is required to have a minimum coverage of RM100,000 per annum. Your annual subscription in this situation will normally not exceed RM100 per month.

14. Signing of Statutory Declaration in Relation to Accounts Under Paragraph 9.27 of the KLSE Listing Requirements

Signing of Statutory Declaration in Relation to Accounts Under Paragraph 9.27 of the KLSE Listing Requirements

Question :-

Can a person who is not a member of the Malaysian Institute of Accountants (MIA) sign the statutory declaration in relation to accounts under Paragraph 9.27 of the KLSE Listing Requirements?

Answer :-

Yes, a person who is not a member of MIA can do so, provided that he or she has at least 3 years' working experience and

a. has since passed the examinations from local institutions of higher learning recognised under the Accountants Act, 1967 or
b. is a member of one of the associations of accountants specified in Part II of the 1st Schedule of the Accountants Act, 1967 as follows :
i. Malaysian Association of Certified Public Accountants;
ii. Institute of Chartered Accountants of Scotland;
iii. Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales;
iv. Institute of Chartered Accountants in Ireland;
v. Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (United Kingdom)
vi. Institute of Chartered Accountants in Australia;
vii. Australian Society of Certified Practising Accountants;
viii. New Zealand Chartered Accountants;
ix. Canadian Institute of Chartered Accountants;
x. Institute of Chartered Accountants in India; and
xi. Chartered Institute of Management Accountants (United Kingdom)

15. Practice Review

Practice Review

Question (as per letter dated 24 January 2003):-

I wish to inform that I shall be retiring from public practice not later than June 2003. Accordingly, please confirm whether I will be exempted from practice review..

Answer (as per memo dated 29 January 2003):-

We refer to your letter dated 24 January 2003 with regard to the above matter.

Presently, our selection will cover all the audit firms registered with our Institute. As long as you have ceased public practice and you are no longer a partner or proprietor of any firm, you will not be subjected to practice review simply because you will not be selected at all. Only proprietors with firms registered with the Companies Commission of Malaysia and our Institute will eventually be reviewed throughout the cycle of 5 years.

16. Appendix 2 of Circular 3/2003

Appendix 2 of Circular 3/2003

Frequently Asked Questions - Standard Board Lot At 100 Units

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17. Appointment Of Auditors

Appointment Of Auditors

Question (as per fax from XYZ & Co. dated 18 January 2002) :-

We have been approached by a listed company to be their auditors for the financial year ended 31 December 2001.

Two existing partners of our current firm are also partners of another audit firm, ABC & Co. together with Mr. M. Mr M who resigned from the ABC & Co. partnership on 31 October 2001 is a non-executive director of this listed company but was never a partner of our firm, XYZ & Co.

In order for XYZ & Co to be seen to be independent, we propose to take up the audit assignment jointly with another independent firm of auditors, LN & Associates.

Kindly advise us as to whether we can take up this audit appointment without contravening any MIA regulations or the Companies Act, 1965 provisions.

Answer (as per our letter dated 25 January 2002) :-

In as far as By-Law B-1.3 (1)(c) is concerned, a member in public practice or his firm shall not knowingly accept appointment as auditor or reporting accountant of a company or other entity if he is or was, within the period concerned or within the preceding period of 12 months been an officer or employee of the company or other entity or if he is or was a partner of or in the employment of an officer or employee of the company or other entity, among other things. In addition, By-Law A-2.1 provides that :-

A member in public practice shall be, and be seen to be, free in each professional assignment he undertakes, of any interest which might detract from objectivity. The fact that this is self-evident in the exercise of the reporting function must not obscure its relevance in respect of other professional work.

Looking at the two significant By-Laws as elicited herein, it appears unacceptable for ABC & Co. to accept the appointment from the listed group since the partner Mr. M is an officer of the listed group, albeit as a independent non-executive director. The fact that there exist two common partners between ABC & Co. and XYZ & Co. effectively precludes the latter firm from accepting the assignments as the appearance of independence is of equal emphasis here, notwithstanding that both firms are operating independently of each other.

Hence, your current contention is that the listed group will appoint the firm of XYZ & Co. together with another firm of independent auditors, i.e. LN & Associates to be the joint auditors to reduce the possible threat to your professional independence. This, we believe, is to enable an effective safeguard to be put in place so that the issues on professional independence is not compromised in any event. Having read the Explanatory note as provided after By-Law B-1.3, it appears that measures can be taken by firms to reduce the threat to their independence where applicable. In fact, such safeguards must be clearly spelt out where necessary. Thus, provided that the joint auditors LN & Associates are able to discharge their duties without compromise to their position as joint auditors (here, it is always a question of fact whether the joint auditors have conducted themselves independently or able to conduct themselves independently during the course of the joint audit), such arrangement if put in place, should be acceptable. But, as professionals, both firms must seriously evaluate their position vis-a-vis the joint audit before coming to the conclusion that the threat to independence has since been properly dealt with.

18. Professional Conduct and Ethics

Professional Conduct and Ethics

Question (as per e-mail dated 25 October 2003):-

'A' is a member firm in practice (non-audit) in town X.

'
B' is a member firm in practice (audit) in town Y.

XYZ Sdn Bhd in town X appointed B as the auditor.


A carries out the audit work. B reviews the audit files and prepares the audit report.

B bills A for time cost.

A bills XYZ Sdn Bhd the audit fee.

Does the above arrangement contravene the By-Laws or the like?

Answer (as per e-mail dated 27 October 2003):-

1.

By-Law B-2.2(4) of the Institute's By-Laws (On professional Conduct and Ethics) on Method of Practice prohibits a member in public practice to report or express an opinion on financial statements examined for the purposes of such report or opinion, by a person other than a member of his firm or of his staff, unless such other person is also a  member in public practice.

2.

Similarly, By-Law B-6.5(1) of the Institute's By-Laws (On professional Conduct and Ethics) on Fees and Commissions prohibits a member in public practice from allowing (whether directly or indirectly) the participation of any person in the fees of his professional work, unless that person is another member in public practice.

3.

Whilst the above By-Laws allow for an auditor (in this case B) to render an audit report based on the examination of the financial statements by another member in public practice (in this case A), such arrangement must nevertheless be in accordance with the Malaysian Approved Standards on Auditing, particularly AI 920.

4.

AI 920 - Engagements to Perform Agreed-Upon Procedures regarding Financial Information, would require the engagement of A (non-audit firm) to carry out agreed upon procedures with the clear understanding and consent of the client (XYZ Sdn Bhd) regarding these agreed procedures and conditions of the engagement. In doing so, A must also comply with the provisions of AI 920, the ethical principles as set out in the IFAC Code of Ethics, and the terms of the engagement. The terms of the engagement must clearly set out the nature, timing and extent of the procedures to be undertaken by A, the financial information involved etc. (see paragraph 9 of AI 920).

5.

As auditor, B must ensure that there is compliance of B's duty of confidentiality to XYZ Sdn Bhd pursuant to By-Law A-5.2 of the Institute's By-Laws (On professional Conduct and Ethics) on Confidentiality, which prohibits the disclosure of information received or acquired by B in the course of his professional work (as auditor of XYZ Sdn Bhd) except where the consent of the client (in this case, XYZ Sdn Bhd) has been obtained. Under this requirement, XYZ Sdn Bhd must expressly consent to the disclosure of any information relating to the financial statements of XYZ Sdn Bhd by B to A for the purpose of enabling A to carry out the engagement to perform agreed-upon procedures. 

6.

B must also ensure that since B is signing the audit report, B (and for that matter, A) has complied with all other applicable Malaysian Approved Standards on Auditing, including AI 220 on Quality Control, AI 230 on Documentation, AI 500 on Audit Evidence etc.

7.

As for the issue of the audit fees, audit fees can only be charged to XYZ Sdn Bhd by B (the audit firm) and not A (the non-audit firm). By allowing A to bill XYZ Sdn Bhd the audit fees, B is effectively assisting A to hold itself out as an audit firm or auditor, which is in contravention of the Accountants Act 1967 and/or the Companies Act 1965.

Kindly note that our views expressed above are based on the limited information given to us and are intended to assist you solely on an ad hoc basis in resolving your query. The views expressed herein are not the official views of the Institute, its Council or any of its Committees. This advice is provided gratuitously and without liability. Neither the Institute, its Council or any of its Committees nor its employees shall be responsible or liable  for any claims, losses, damages, costs or expenses arising in any way out of or in connection with any reliance upon the advice given herein by any person(s).

19. Professional Independence

Professional Independence

Question (as per  e-mail dated 4 February 2004)

We would like to enquire about the appointment of auditors (owned by Mr. A & Mr. B) by a group of companies belonging to a director-cum-shareholder who is a brother to Mr. A. Under the by-law, kindly let us know whether that audit firm is qualified as the soon-to-be auditors for the group of companies on the condition that Mr. B is going to sign the auditors' report and not Mr. A. 

Answer (as per e-mail dated 6 February 2004)

We refer to your e-mail with regards to the above matter. 

By-Law B-1.3 (1) prohibits an arrangement as you have mentioned below unless :-

1. the interest held by the immediate family member does not give rise to a significant threat to the professional independence , integrity or objectivity of the firm ; AND
2. there are appropriate safeguards in place that will effectively AND adequately preserve the professional independence, integrity or objectivity of the member and / or his firm

Please see By-Law B-1.3 (2) for further information.

20. Profit Sharing Agreement

Profit Sharing Agreement

Question (as per letter dated 25 March 2004)

There are two MIA members who joined us two years ago with the aim of becoming partners of our firm upon acquisition of audit licence. There two gentlemen are in the midst of applying for an audit licence under Section 8(1) of the Companies Act, 1965. As they have not possessed the audit licence, Form 5 (Return of Partners of Firm of Auditors) has not been filed in this respect. As such, they are not permitted to sign audited accounts. However, they are given a profit sharing in the firm and as such an agreement has been drawn to effect his arrangement. The aggrement contains the following characteristics:
The profit sharing ratio of each partner;
The terms and conditions;
The amount of goodwill that the two gentlemen are required to pay to the existing partners.
Please advise if the above arrangement has breached the Companies Act, 1965 and any of the MIA By-Laws.


Answer (as per our letter dated 18 May 2004)

We refer to your letter dated 25 March 2004.

Please take note that for the purposes of Section 9(4) of the Companies Act, 1965, it is stipulated that partners of the firm who are residents of Malaysia must be approved company auditors. Any arrangement which appears to override this provision may be viewed as a breach of the Companies Act. In addition, the Public Practice Committee of the Institute is of the opinion that such arrangements as mentioned in your letter may not be considered as acceptable by the Institute.

As a matter of practice, the firm can certainly work out certain incentive packages such as in the form of bonuses which would be able to fairly compensate the effort of your two (2) potential partners pending their successful application for their audit licences.

Kindly note that our views expressed herein are intended to assist you solely on an ad hoc basis in resolving your inquiry. The views expressed are not the official opinion of MIA, its Council or any of its Committees. Advice given is provided gratuitously and without liability. Neither MIA, its Council or any of its Committees nor its employees shall be responsible or liable for any claims, losses, damages, costs or expenses arising in any way out of or in connection with any persons relying upon the advice given.

21. Practicing Certificate And An Audit Licence

Practicing Certificate And An Audit Licence

Question

Can a person holding a valid practicing certificate and an audit licence also work as a manager in a trading company dealing with herbal supplements?

Answer

No. Under Rule 9 (7) of the Institute's (Membership & Council - Rules) 2001, it is provided that:-

7.
(a) A member who-
(b) does not engage in public practice or undertake any public practice service full time,

shall automatically cease to have a valid practicing certificate and the member shall return his practicing certificate to the Institute within fourteen days from the date of cessation for cancellation of the said certificate.

There is also a condition being set by the Ministry of Finance (MOF) for approved auditors which states that an applicant is required to be in full time practice as an auditor.

22. Outstanding Audit Fees

Outstanding Audit Fees

Question

Does the Institute's By-Law allow an audit firm to discontinue the current year's audit if there is an outstanding audit fees from previous year? This is of course on the assumption that we have not tendered in our resignation as the statutory auditors to date.

Answer

We would like to highlight here that By B-8.4(1) on Changes in Professional Appointments states that a member in public practice who is an existing auditor may decline re-appointment if that particular client has not paid the auditor or any previous auditor of that particular client, the fees due on the statutory audit of the financial statements of the client for two consecutive financial years.

Please be informed that there is no provision in the By-Law which allows the firm to discontinue the current year audit if there are outstanding fees. If there are outstanding fees, the firm should decline re-appointment as auditor in the annual general meeting of the company but if the firm decides to accept the re-appointment, the firm has a statutory duty to complete the statutory audit.

We also wish to highlight that the new By-Law B-1 on Professional Independence has a provision on Fees - Overdue, which states that a self-interest threat may be created if fees due from an assurance client for professional service remain unpaid for a long-time and safeguards should be applied to reduce the threat to an acceptable level.

23. Definition of full time practice

Definition of full time practice

Question


Can a member who is holding a valid practicing certificate, venture into other business, e.g. set up a restaurant, in the capacity of both director & shareholder?

Answer

A member who is a holder of a valid practising certificate may venture into other businesses in a capacity of both director and shareholder provided that:

1. He is not the Executive Director of the Company i.e. he does not get involved directly in the day to day management of the business
2. He does not neglect his full time audit/ accounting practice; and
3. He need to ensures that his clients do not raise complaint againts him due to him neglecting his full time practice.

24. Exemption of requirement of auditors and company's secretary

Exemption of requirement of auditors and company's secretary

Question


Is the new Companies Act which is going to be introduced next year (2006) going to exempt the requirement of private companies to appoint qualified auditors and secretary?

Answer

The reform of the Companies Act, 1965 is currently being undertaken by the Corporate Law Reform Committee of the Companies Commission of Malaysia (CCM). The scope of the law reform initiative can be found in the Strategic Framework released by the CCM last September. A copy of the Framework can be found on the CCM website- www.ssm.com.my.

Whilst we believe that one of the stated objectives of the law reform is to reduce compliance costs, the Institute is not in a position to advise on the whether or not the requirement of having auditors and company secretaries for private companies will be exempted. As is indicated in the Framework, any proposed change to the law will be made upon consultation with all affected parties. The Institute will inform and consult members accordingly when the consultation papers are issued by the CCM.

25. Submission of the Accountants Report for Solicitor’s Clients Accounts

Submission of the Accountants Report for Solicitor's Clients Accounts

Question (as per letter dated 20 September 2002) :-

We refer to an article entitled "Solicitor's Clients Accounts" published in Volume 15, Number 7 (page 9) of the Akauntan Nasional August 2002 issue. It was mentioned that the submission of the Accountants Report for the Solicitor's Clients Accounts to the Bar Council is only applicable to lawyers practising in the Peninsular only.

Please clarify on whether lawyers that have office branches in Peninsular and East Malaysia, but maintain all the client's accounts in the bank accounts that were opened in East Malaysia, are they required to submit the Accountants Report on the Solicitor's Clients Accounts to the Bar Council in Peninsular Malaysia.

Answer (as per letter dated 6 November 2002) :-

We refer to your letter dated 20 September 2002 on the above matter.

The Bar Council clarified that, so long as solicitors have branch offices of their practice/firm located in Peninsular Malaysia, they are required to submit the Accountants Report for their clients' accounts irrespective of whether the clients' accounts are operated in East Malaysia only.

26. Fee Advances

Fee Advances

Question


We have a client where its' audit has been suspended for a period as they failed to provide the necessary documents for our verification. In addition, we also noted the company is currently involved in certain legal cases and may not operate on a going concern basis. In order to safeguard our interests on fee recovery we intend to propose for an advance payment before we continue with the audit. Should the advance payment not be forthcoming we may not proceed with the audit.

In this circumstances, we should be obliged if you could advise us whether this is in line with MIA's By-Laws (on Professional Conduct and Ethics).

Answer

The clarification below is based on the limited fact as provided.

Firms are allowed to prioritise their work to match their revenue with whatever resources they have in their disposal. Hence, there should not be an issue of asking for an advance to proceed with whatever works that is on hand.

However, should the advances being not forthcoming, the firm can always opt to resign (rather than prolong it's exposure in further works without pays) and sue for the fees outstanding up to the date of resignation, provided that there was no dispute on the fees in the first place. However, the firm may want to note that it's option, at this stage, will normally be very much limited to what the company can afford, if at all.

27. Ethics

Ethics

Question (as per e-mail dated 29 June 2005)


I am based in Kuala Lumpur and all the accounting records are maintained in Kuala Krai, Kelantan. As the head of the accounts department, I cannot deny that I don't know what is happening in the Company. There are some "questionable" transactions, by which I don't agree. Anyway, I have been requested to present the financial statements during the Audit Committee and Board of Directors' meeting.

The argument given by the former and present chairman is that I am not required to sign the audited accounts / make statutory declaration on the financial statements, whereby it is done by a Non-independent Non-Executive Director.

Please advise via email on whether or not I can be charged for any wrongdoing as the head of accounts department even though I acted on instructions.

Answer (as per e-mail dated 18 July 2005)

The Institute's By-Laws (On Professional Conduct and Ethics) state that a member in accepting or continuing a professional assignment or occupation, shall always act with integrity, objectivity, independence and impartiality. These fundamental principles form the basic tenets of ethical and professional conduct of all the members.

The members of the Institute are also expected at all times to be straightforward, honest and sincere in their approach to their professional work and not allow any prejudice, bias or influences of others to override their objectivity.

In view of the above and in addressing your question as to whether you can be charged for any wrongdoings even if you acted on instructions, we would like to advise you that you may be in breach of the Institute's By-Laws, notwithstanding the fact that you were acting on instructions. Acting on instructions from the management and/or your superiors do not absolve your actions and the possible breach of the relevant provisions in the Institute's By-Laws. If a complaint is lodged against you, the Investigation Committee of the Institute will have to investigate the matter and determine whether there is a prima facie breach of the Institute's By-Laws.

We would like to suggest that when faced with a significant ethical conflict, you should raise your concerns with your immediate superior and if the immediate superior is involved, in which case the problem should be raised with the next higher managerial level. This would show that you tried to remedy the situation by raising your concerns to the relevant parties. It would also be helpful to have your concerns documented and supported with the relevant evidence.

As a matter of policy, the Institute disclaims responsibility for any comments or statement by any of its staff. The views expressed are based solely on the limited information given to MIA and are intended to assist members solely on an ad hoc basis in resolving members' enquiries. The views expressed are not the official opinion of MIA, its Council or any of its Committees. Advice given is provided gratuitously and without liability. Neither the MIA, its Council or any of its Committees not its staff shall be responsible or liable for any claims, losses, damages, costs or expenses arising in any way out of or in connection with any persons relying upon the advice given.

We trust that the above is of assistance to you.

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